24 February 2012 18 Comments

Gillard faces the challenge

Julia Gillard was born in Barry Wales on September 29 1961 but her birth time has not been confirmed by a birth certificate.

Julia Gillard 's horoscopeCurrently her natal Mars is being conjoined by transiting Saturn. This combination is usually associated with frustration, blocked energy, and major life lessons. Since Saturn has been within the vicinity of Mars (most of 2011) Gillard has been going through a difficult period.

However Saturn and Mars are in mutual reception in Gillard’s horoscope which means that they are favourably disposed towards each other. So although the situation is very difficult for Gillard this Saturn-Mars aspect is not quite as bad as it appears.

In both Rudd and Gillard’s horoscopes progressed Venus is significant at the moment. In Gillard’s horoscope progressed Venus is about to conjoin natal Neptune, the planet of dreams and illusions. Although these two planets are aligned in her natal chart progressed aspects from Venus to Neptune nevertheless amplify deception and illusion regarding allies.

Although Pluto, the planet associated with hidden scenarios has been aspecting her natal Venus over the last year, suggesting that the plotters have been out to get her for some time, her natal Venus is conjunct Pluto showing that she is also familiar with back room power plays.

The next major planetary transit for Gillard is Jupiter’s trine to Venus on March 1st 2012. Those who study astrology will recall that this is a transit commonly associated with popularity and success.

Without a confirmed birth time there is insufficient astrological evidence on which to make a definite call.

While we are missing some vital clues aspects from Uranus to Gillard’s Sun in the coming months suggest that an unstable time lies ahead of her, particularly in April and October 2012 and February 2013. Even is she wins Monday‘s showdown, Gillard may still find herself on a different path within 12 months.

Labor Leadership ballot February 27 2012The horoscope for the showdown with Rudd at 10 am Monday 27th February shows the planet of femininity, represented by the Moon, applying to a conjunction with Jupiter, the planet of luck and success. Although we can take nothing in isolation, this tiny of evidence suggests a win for Gillard.

Unfortunately without a confirmed time of birth it is impossible to reach a black and white conclusion.

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18 Responses to “Gillard faces the challenge”

  1. Murray May 25 February 2012 at 19:41 #

    With transiting Jupiter also coming to trine Julia Gillard’s Pluto in March, it’s hard to imagine she will be on the backbench with that. Rather an expansion of power in March at least. Will be interesting to see what the Uranus to Sun brings in coming months.

    • peter 26 February 2012 at 08:19 #

      Murray your comment begs the question: what does Pluto specifically represent in Gillard’s horoscope?
      And is Pluto more important than Venus which Jupiter will transit before Pluto?

  2. Murray 26 February 2012 at 12:08 #

    Peter – I don’t think I’d make a distinction between Venus and Pluto in terms of importance, given that Venus and Pluto are also part of a conjunction. However, the Jupiter/Pluto association with political power is suggestive of a positive outcome to me, rather than sitting on the back bench in the coming week. Pluto is also not that far from Gillard’s MC according to the chart on Ed Tamplin’s website.

    • peter 26 February 2012 at 20:19 #

      If this was a horary chart the challenger (Rudd) would be represented by the ruler of the 1st house. However this is an event chart and there are varying opinions as to which house represents the challenger. This is why I love horary astrology. It is simple clear and provides definite answers. By the way while we would use the Sun in a horary chart to represent the physical desires of the man in relationship questions, I don’t think that is appropriate in an event chart for a political challenge. In this case the Sun separates from Jupiter which represents a receding energy.

  3. Aileen 26 February 2012 at 18:19 #

    Hi Peter, I hope i am correct here. With Julie represented by the 1st house and Kevin by the 7th on the Labour Leadership Ballot Chart I find that Mars (ruler of the 1st) is in Virgo retrograde squaring the Path of Fortune. Retrograde Mars (her energy) is not good, neither is the square to her fortune. However, the moon in Taurus is good for her. Kevin, has Venus (Ruler of the 7th) in Aries in detriment – not good, but the Sun sextiles Jupiter in Taurus (good). The problem I see is that with Venus squaring the midheaven maybe Kevin has put too much emphasis on public support.

  4. Gabrielle 26 February 2012 at 19:35 #

    Gillard’s birthtime is around noon according to her mother. Other astrologers have been using that birthtime such as Ed Tamplin and it seems to fit.

    • peter 26 February 2012 at 20:26 #

      Yes Gabrielle this chart is used by a number of people. I take a more conservative approach than many astrologers and only use timed charts where there is a confirmed birth certificate or first hand confirmation from the mother. However that is not to say that this Scorpio rising chart is incorrect.

      • Murray 26 February 2012 at 21:00 #

        Hi Peter – if we take the Scorpio Asc as correct, there is also a nice link from the Venus/Pluto conjunction to Gillard’s Sun in Libra via Venus, and to her Asc via Pluto. Jupiter aspecting the Venus/Pluto in the next while looks encouraging. Also, T. Neptune opposite Rudd’s Pluto has likely been linked to more exposure of his less savoury qualities, and is not a good omen for establishing power I think.

        • peter 27 February 2012 at 09:06 #

          Murray I don’t understand what you mean by these links.

          • Murray 27 February 2012 at 09:21 #

            10-25 am and the result is near!

          • peter 27 February 2012 at 09:42 #

            yes I am still wondering what you mean by “if we take the Scorpio Asc as correct, there is also a nice link from the Venus/Pluto conjunction to Gillard’s Sun in Libra via Venus, and to her Asc via Pluto.”

          • Murray 27 February 2012 at 10:16 #

            Pluto rules Scorpio, Venus rules Libra. Are these not pivotal signs in Gillard’s chart?
            Gillard 73 votes, Rudd 29 votes recent media advice
            Ebertin on Jupiter/Pluto for Gillard transits soon + ve manifestation is the attainment of leadership
            Ebertin on Neptune/Pluto for Rudd transits – ve manifestation is possessed by fantastic ideas, self-torture, heavy losses

          • peter 27 February 2012 at 10:46 #

            Yes I agree that these signs are pivotal but I disagree about their rulerships. According to the tradition it is Mars that rules Scorpio. In both horary and natal astrology I find that accurate results are consistently achieved when the traditional rulerships are employed. I understand that we now have a generation of astrologers who were taught that Scorpio is ruled by Pluto (myself included). My request is that these astrologers keep an open mind and consider the possibility that the traditional rulers have validity. It requires a very powerful reason why planets whose light cannot be seen can displace planets whose light is clear. At the very core of astrology lies the concept of light and visibility.

          • Murray 27 February 2012 at 10:21 #

            Revised media advice Gillard 71 votes Rudd 31 votes

        • Murray 27 February 2012 at 10:53 #

          I think it’s OK to go back to traditional rulerships – I do so myself using Vedic astrology. However, the modern setups can still work well as long as you don’t mix the systems. Thus Rahu and Ketu in Vedic astrology address some of the matters that Uranus, Neptune and Pluto relate too (given that the latter planets are not normally used in Vedic astrology). The tendency with traditional astrology to suggest it is the one and only way to truth is a kind of fundamentalism.

          • peter 27 February 2012 at 11:07 #

            I am also opposed to fundamentalism Murray. Here I am only inviting people to keep an open mind and consider using of traditional rulerships. I also invite people to re-examine the reasons why the traditional rulers were displaced by some astrologers. I am appealing for open-mindedness which is very different to fundamentalism.

  5. Murray 27 February 2012 at 11:22 #

    Peter – that is good to hear. That is why an approach that has Pluto ruling Scorpio can also be usefully used. One can use more than one system I believe as long as one does not mix them up in their application. Vedic astrology via the nakshatras I have found offers deeper spiritual insights than offered by modern systems.

    • peter 28 February 2012 at 07:52 #

      So far I have not seen a list of the reasons Pluto why should displace Mars as the ruler of Scorpio. Those I have spoken to who propose Pluto as ruler of Scorpio seem to be ignorant of the place that Mars plays in the interplay of traditional rulerships. Without such knowledge it is not possible to make an informed judgement. Those who proclaim Pluto’s rulership without a sound understanding of of integrity of the system being altered diminish their own credibility.

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